9-years-old Joe Maldonado made international headlines earlier this year when he became the nation’s first openly transgender Cub Scout after his case prompted the Boy Scouts of America to change its policy to allow transgender students.

Joe Maldonado says he’s proud he was able to start a conversation that led to change for the Boy Scouts, but he’s sad President Trump isn’t listening. In an interview with MSNBC, Joe said he thinks Trump rescinding protections for transgender students should not be a state issue, saying not allowing transgender people to use the bathroom of their choice is “ridiculous.”

MSNBC’s Katy Tur spoke with Joe about the Trump administration’s action that rescinded Title IX protections granted to transgender people by President Obama. Those civil rights include the freedom to use the bathroom that corresponds with their gender identity. Joe told Katy that he does not believe where transgender people are and are not allowed to go should be left up to the states, because some states might try to limit transgender peoples’ civil rights.

“I think it’s wrong,” he said. “Because some governors will probably say no. And I don’t think any states should be for that rule.”

His mother, Kristie, agreed.


  1. The Supreme Court is taking up the “Bathroom Law” again. This law says that you must use the bathroom corresponding to the sex on your birth certificate. This seems like a solution looking for a problem. This is not a Title IX issue, this is a common sense issue. The big problem may be that some fights will start before or after the 911 call.

    I am trying to envision some scenarios that might develop if the “Bathroom Law” is upheld.

    If I am in the men’s bathroom and I see someone in there that looks like a lady, I am gonna say “Excuse me ma’am, I think you are in the wrong bathroom.” She may say “No it is illegal for me to visit the women’s bathroom.” Now what am I gonna do? Explain to my young son that this lady has to be here because the State Law or the Supreme Court says so? Perhaps I should ask her for her “Man Card”. If she can prove that the law makes her be in our restroom, then ok. If she cannot prove that she is a man then she has to leave or there will be a 911 call. I am not gonna look at her “body of proof” and I am gonna fight if she asks me to look. I am inclined to fight someone who says they are a man, looks like a woman but cannot prove what they are. Even if I have a look at the “body of proof”, I am aware that magical things can be done with surgery these days. So if she can prove she is a man, she must stay in the men’s bathroom by law.

    If someone in the men’s bathroom thinks that I am a woman what am I going to do? I do not have a “Man Card”. I am probably gonna fight someone who thinks I look like a woman in the men’s bathroom. I am sure gonna fight someone who asks to see my “body of proof”.

    If I am waiting for my wife to come out of the women’s bathroom and I see someone who looks like a man going in, I am going in after him. Not to fight him. I need to protect him from my wife. She will not care if he has a woman card or not, she is going to kick him out. There may be several 911 calls.

    Of course if there is a law or there is no law, someone who looks like a man or looks like a woman starts looking over the stall or under the door or looking at or showing their “body of proof” there is gonna be a fight before or after the 911 call. If this is not illegal and worthy of a 911 call in your locality, please vote out your local, state and federal lawmakers.